Well! we goin to Sessay on sunday, my lads actin as porters, ( just had a knee op)and I'm deciding which rods and reels to take, I've jut bought a Shakespeare Mach1 xt specialist float/ledger rod, I'll be taking that, and my new Sensas 10ft carp rod, light as a feather, instead of the shimano and Daiwa reels I usually take I'll be taking the 2 Okuma Silvara reels I bought off here from Dale,tenner a piece and 5 year gaurantee, seem to work well, ( might just pop me 8000 in the bag incase lol ) anyway I'll post if its worth doin so when I get back, see how cheap and cheerful work.